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Income, gold and GARP: Global X’s Marc Jocum

How to get income without just buying the banks, how covered call ETFs really work, the case for gold and copper, and growth at a reasonable price.

· ~43 min video· 9 key takeaways

Australians put a record $21 billion into ETFs last quarter, and the industry is now worth about $388 billion. A lot of that money is chasing two things: reliable income and protection from an uncertain world.

In this Meet the Manager interview I sat down with Marc Jocum, Senior ETF Strategist at Global X ETFs Australia, to talk about getting income without just buying the banks, how covered calls work, whether gold is still worth owning, and GARP: growth at a reasonable price. Each button jumps the video to that part of the conversation.

$388bn
Australian ETF industry
~3m
Australians now invest in ETFs
7–8%
ETF share of managed money here, vs 30–40% in the US

1. Who is Global X?

Global X was formerly ETF Securities (and before that ANZ ETFs). It launched the world’s first gold ETF, , and Marc says it holds about two-thirds market share in both commodities and thematic ETFs in Australia. It has 53 funds and over $17 billion under management, making it the fifth-largest index ETF issuer here.

Global X is owned by Mirae Asset, one of Korea’s largest investment firms and an early backer of Australia’s ETF industry. The Australian business runs independently but draws on Global X offices around the world.

2. Why ETFs are booming, and is it a bubble?

Marc sees three drivers: investors moving from high-cost to low-cost funds, advisers and model portfolios now using ETFs as core building blocks, and cheap digital platforms making them easy to buy. The newer shift is investors choosing which theme to back rather than which active manager.

The ASX’s latest investor study shows the number of ETF investors has roughly doubled since 2020 to almost 3 million. With property making up about 70% of household wealth, Marc expects more money to move into ETFs as housing becomes harder to afford.

Not in Marc’s view. ETFs are only about 7–8% of managed money in Australia and around 20% of trading volume. Active managers still do most of the trading.

“They’re tax efficient, they’re liquid, they’re tradable, they’re transparent. They pretty much tick all the boxes for investors.”Marc Jocum, Senior ETF Strategist, Global X

3. Income without just buying the banks

Income is back in fashion, and not only for retirees: younger investors want passive income to keep up with the cost of living. Marc points to a four-year dividend drought, with the market’s dividend yield falling from the mid-4% range to about 3.5%, although the August 2026 reporting season saw dividends rise around 13%. In Australia, more than half of share market returns have historically come from dividends.

4. High-dividend ETFs, and why CBA was left out

The risk with high-dividend ETFs is dividend traps: companies whose yield looks high only because the share price has fallen. Marc explained how tries to avoid them:

  • It holds about 50 companies chosen on forecast dividend yield, not past yield.
  • It removes the bottom 10% of weakest performers (a momentum filter).
  • It has historically yielded about 1–2% more than the ASX 200.

The surprise: CBA isn’t in it. That wasn’t a stock pick. Under the index rules, CBA’s share price rose so far that its forecast yield fell below the cut-off, so it was treated more like a growth stock. It can come back in at a six-monthly rebalance. Marc said ZYAU had beaten the broader market by about 4% so far this year, helped by its tilt to materials and energy.

My tip: dividend ETFs track different indices, so check the top 10 holdings before you buy. Otherwise you can end up owning three dividend ETFs that all hold the same companies.

Compare more on our dividend and income ETFs list, and see how franking works in franking credits and ETFs.

5. Covered calls explained

Covered call ETFs have grown about tenfold in five years to around $5 billion, and Marc said last month was the best month for Australian covered call flows in about 12 years. A covered call ETF owns a basket of shares, such as the ASX 200, and sells call options over them for extra income.

MARC’S HOUSE ANALOGY
TODAY

You own a $1m house. Someone pays you a premium now for the right to buy it for $1.2m in 3 years.

STAYS UNDER $1.2M

You keep the house and the premium. That premium is the extra income.

RISES TO $1.3M

You still have to sell at $1.2m. Your upside is capped.

A covered call ETF does the same thing with shares: it owns the stocks and sells call options over them each quarter.

You get three layers of income: dividends, franking credits and the option premium, which is why yields of around 8–9% are possible. Marc said covered calls on the Australian market have returned about the same as the ASX 200 over the last 20 years, with noticeably less risk.

When do covered calls work best?

📈 STRONG BULL MARKET

Worst. Gains are capped, so it lags the index, as Global X’s US covered calls have.

↔ SIDEWAYS MARKET

Best. You collect the premium without missing much upside. Marc thinks this suits Australia.

📉 FALLING MARKET

Holds up better. The premium (often a couple of percent a quarter) cushions the fall.

That’s why Marc sees Australian covered calls like as a longer-term holding, while US versions such as and are more tactical: in strong US rallies they’ve lagged the index even with double-digit yields. Option premiums also rise when markets are volatile, so income tends to increase when markets are nervous.

Yield, franking and total return

AYLD holds the same 200 companies as an ASX 200 ETF, plus a line for the call options. It can still pass on franking credits if the shares are held “at risk” (the 45-day rule), though not at 100% franked. Marc’s most important point: the unit price may drift sideways or down over time (“NAV erosion”), so judge a covered call ETF on total return (price plus distributions), not price alone. He sees advisers using 10–25% covered calls alongside a broad ASX ETF like .

“There’s no free lunch when it comes to investing.”Marc Jocum, Senior ETF Strategist, Global X

6. The case for gold

Gold ETFs had a record quarter in Q3 2026 with just under $700 million of inflows, as Australians bought the dip after gold pulled back from above US$5,000 an ounce to around US$4,100. Marc’s case for gold:

  • Central banks keep buying, and many want to move away from US debt after Russian reserves were frozen in 2022.
  • Gold has started moving with real yields again: if rates fall, the cost of holding gold falls too.
  • It’s a diversifier at a time when shares and bonds have been moving together.

Most Global X clients hold 2–5% in gold, and the largest holds 12–15%. Marc expects some short-term volatility but sees no reason gold can’t get closer to US$5,000 by next year. Browse every gold fund on our gold ETFs list.

7. The commodity super cycle and copper

Marc thinks we’re early in a commodity super cycle. The last one, in the 2000s, ran 8–9 years on China’s growth. This time supply is thinner and demand comes from long-term trends: AI data centres, electric vehicles, robotics and electrification.

Copper is the standout. It can take around 17 years to build a new copper mine, and AI data centres need a lot of it. Marc sees (copper miners) as the cleanest way to play it, and for broad commodities. See our critical minerals ETFs list too.

8. GARP: growth at a reasonable price

GARP isn’t new. Peter Lynch made it famous in the 1980s. The idea: buy companies that are growing, are high quality and aren’t too expensive. Global X packaged it into an index ETF, , with a hedged version and an Australian version .

HOW THE GARP INDEX PICKS STOCKS
Developed markets ex Australia
Start with the leading global companies
Top 500 growth companies
Ranked on sales growth and earnings growth
Quality and value screens
High return on equity, low debt, sensible P/E
Top 250, 5% cap per stock
Rebalanced, so no single giant dominates

At the time of recording, Marc said the global GARP portfolio traded on about 18–19 times earnings versus the mid-20s for the broad market, was underweight the US and overweight Europe and Asia, and had only about a 30% overlap with the broad global index. The Australian version traded on about 14 times earnings and held no big banks.

Marc thinks GARP suits today’s market: investors know they need growth, but worry about how concentrated and expensive US markets have become. He noted GARP had lagged recently because it holds fewer of the big AI names.

Most investors use it as a satellite next to a global index ETF. Global X’s analysis suggests a 25–30% blend has improved risk-adjusted returns. If you’re new to that idea, see core and satellite investing and our earlier smart beta interview with VanEck.

9. What people misunderstand about ETFs

  • Liquidity: an ETF that trades lightly can still be liquid, because market makers trade against the underlying shares.
  • Not all ETFs are the same: many follow different rules, and some are active. The ETF is just the wrapper, so read the PDS and TMD.

It took about 20 years for Australian ETFs to reach their first $100 billion, three years for the next, and 18 months for the one after. Marc expects the next $100 billion in just over a year.

Every Global X ETF, sortable

Here’s the full Global X range on the ASX, from the income and commodity funds Marc discussed to its thematic ETFs. Sort by size, fee, asset class or 1-year return.

All 53 Global X ETFs
Tap a column or button to sort, filter by asset class, and tap any ETF for a chart, details and similar ETFs. Returns to 30 September 2026.
Sort by:
ISMD
Global X MSCI International Small and Mid Cap
International shares0.45%$4m–
MOON
Global X Space Tech
International shares0.50%$6m–
GHRP Hedged
Global X S&P World X Australia Garp Hedged
International shares0.33%$2m–
HMND
Global X Humanoid Robotics
International shares0.57%$6m–
SLVM
Global X Silver Miners.
International shares0.65%$90m–
J100
Global X Japan Topix 100
International shares0.40%$14m–
GRPA
Global X S&P Australia Garp
Australian shares0.25%$3m–
A300
Global X Australia 300
Australian shares0.03%$23m+3.2%
DRGN
Global X China Tech
International shares0.45%$87m-16.9%
AINF
Global X Ai Infrastructure
International shares0.57%$202m+27.5%
GHLD Hedged
Global X Gold Bullion Hedged
Commodities0.35%$240m+5.7%
RSSL
Global X Russell 2000
International shares0.18%$25m+9.9%
DTEC
Global X Defence Tech
International shares0.50%$112m-17.5%
GARP
Global X S&P World Ex Australia GARP
International shares0.30%$132m+5.6%
BANK
Global X Australian BANK Credit
Australian bonds0.25%$189m+3.2%
FHNG Hedged
Global X Fang+ Hedged
International shares0.38%$155m+16.2%
PAVE
Global X Us Infrastructure Development
Property & infra0.47%$40m+7.2%
GXLD
Global X Gold Bullion
Commodities0.15%$766m+1.9%
GXAI
Global X Artificial Intelligence
International shares0.57%$284m+24.8%
BUGG
Global X Cybersecurity
International shares0.47%$25m+20.4%
U100
Global X Us 100
International shares0.18%$107m+12.8%
BCOM Complex
Global X Bloomberg Commodity
Commodities0.60%$150m+22.4%
OZXX
Global X Australia Ex Financials & Resources
Australian shares0.25%$6m-7.7%
USIG Hedged
Global X Usd Corporate Bond Hedged
Global bonds0.30%$3m-3.5%
AYLD Complex
Global X S&P/ASX 200 Covered Call
Australian shares0.60%$125m+7.9%
QYLD Complex
Global X Nasdaq 100 Covered Call
International shares0.60%$30m+13.7%
UYLD Complex
Global X S&P 500 Covered Call
International shares0.60%$17m+9.4%
ATOM
Global X Uranium
International shares0.69%$136m-18.9%
WIRE
Global X Copper Miners
International shares0.65%$916m+38.1%
GMTL
Global X Rare Earth and Critical Metals
International shares0.69%$12m+17.2%
USHY Hedged
Global X Usd High Yield Bond Hedged
Global bonds0.30%$15m+1.9%
USTB Hedged
Global X Us Treasury Bond Hedged
Global bonds0.19%$453m-1.5%
EBTC TMX
Global X 21Shares Bitcoin
Crypto0.45%$165m-31.2%
EETH TMX
Global X 21Shares Ethereum
Crypto0.45%$48m-39.6%
FTEC TMX
Global X Fintech & Blockchain
International shares0.69%$4m-19.9%
HGEN
Global X Hydrogen
International shares0.69%$46m+55.0%
SEMI
Global X Semiconductor
International shares0.45%$1.1bn+109.0%
LNAS Complex
Global X Ultra Long Nasdaq 100
International shares1.00%$83m+37.4%
SNAS Complex
Global X Ultra Short Nasdaq 100
International shares1.00%$67m-40.9%
FANG
Global X FANG+
International shares0.35%$1.8bn+10.6%
NDIA
Global X India Nifty 50
International shares0.69%$166m-17.2%
CURE
Global X S&P Biotech
International shares0.45%$50m+50.9%
ACDC
Global X Battery Tech & Lithium
International shares0.69%$604m+16.3%
ROBO
Global X ROBO Global Robotics & Automation
International shares0.69%$323m+17.6%
TECH
Global X Morningstar Global Technology
International shares0.45%$343m+16.1%
ESTX
Global X Euro Stoxx 50
International shares0.35%$490m+7.6%
ZYAU
Global X S&P/ASX 200 High Dividend
Australian shares0.24%$100m+10.7%
ZYUS
Global X S&P 500 High Yield Low Volatility
International shares0.35%$70m-1.7%
ETPMAG
Global X Physical Silver
Commodities0.49%$1.4bn+22.0%
ETPMPD
Global X Physical Palladium
Commodities0.49%$17m-10.1%
ETPMPM
Global X Physical Precious Metal Basket
Commodities0.44%$131m+4.7%
ETPMPT
Global X Physical Platinum
Commodities0.49%$79m-0.7%
GOLD
Global X Physical GOLD
Commodities0.40%$5.8bn+1.7%
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My key takeaways

  • Income comes in different forms: high dividends, covered calls and bonds. Mixing them avoids leaning too hard on the banks.
  • Covered calls trade upside for income. They suit sideways or falling markets more than strong bull runs. Always check total return.
  • Gold and commodities can diversify a portfolio, but they swing a lot, so size them sensibly.
  • Look under the hood. Two ETFs with similar names can hold very different things.

Watch the full interview on YouTube →

General information only. Views are Marc Jocum’s own and not a recommendation of any product. Figures, holdings and yields are as discussed at the time of recording and may have changed. Past performance is not a reliable indicator of future performance. Check the PDS and TMD before investing.

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Frequently asked questions

What is a covered call ETF?

A covered call ETF owns a basket of shares and sells call options over them to earn extra income (the option premium). Investors get dividends, franking credits and the premium, but give up some upside if markets rise strongly.

When do covered call ETFs work best?

In sideways or falling markets. In a sideways market you collect the premium without missing much growth, and in a falling market the premium cushions the decline. In strong bull markets they usually lag because gains are capped.

Why isn’t CBA in ZYAU?

ZYAU follows index rules based on forecast dividend yield. CBA’s share price rose so far that its forecast yield fell below the cut-off, so the index removed it. It can be added back at a future six-monthly rebalance.

What is a GARP ETF?

GARP stands for growth at a reasonable price. A GARP ETF picks companies with strong sales and earnings growth, then screens for quality (high return on equity, low debt) and value (sensible price-to-earnings ratio).

How much gold do investors hold?

Marc Jocum said most Global X clients hold 2–5% of their portfolio in gold, with the largest holding 12–15%. The right amount depends on your goals and risk tolerance.

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